How to Export 3d Camera Data from Cinema 4D into After Effects – Day 2

The key to good project management is workflow, and also to ensure that all your pieces and parts will all come together in the final assembly. Design is no different.

This tutorial deals with some more advanced compositing techniques, and hopefully after watching the first tutorial, you’ll have a good grasp of the basics and be ready to dive into this 3 video tutorial featuring advanced compositing using tags, multi-pass renders, and expressions in After Effects.

This tutorial is Day 2 in a series – Go to Day 1

Before you hit ‘play’ there are a few points I want to make clear:

  • Yes, it’s a monster (an hour long). But some of this stuff is very complicated, and I want to make sure if you’ve never even thought of this before, you’ll still grasp it. Plus, if you think following it is hard, imagine recording this thing a total of five times before you’re actually happy with it.
  • Apparently I didn’t pay much attention to my note. You’ll see (sorry f1a5h84ck, I tried).
  • I’m not trying to make things pretty, I’m trying to get you guys to learn…which is why this will be some of the ugliest work you’ve ever done, but hopefully using techniques that are new to you, and will stick.
  • Once again, the comments are to help me help you. Any tips, suggestions, questions, etc, throw them right there. I read them as often as I can, and respond when I’m able, so if you need anything specific, you can put it right there.
  • One thing I’m considering is to do an entire project from beginning to end – for example, a ‘show open’ for CGTuts+ screen casts. It would take you from beginning to end, giving some of you a taste of what it means to do this professionally. If that’s something that sounds interesting, let me know. It would definitely be multi-part.

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    Discussion 37 Comments

    1. Nic says:

      have looked forward to this one, man! Gonna watch it right away.

    2. f1a5h84ck says:

      “Apparently I didn’t pay much attention to my note. You’ll see (sorry f1a5h84ck, I tried).”
      Man, I really appreciate that! Thanks anyway! :) I found your tutorial extremely useful. Thank you.

    3. f1a5h84ck says:

      “One thing I’m considering is to do an entire project from beginning to end – for example, a ‘show open’ for CGTuts+ screen casts.”
      Yes, it sounds interesting, Harrison. I think that’s a great idea. May be some sort of news program pacckage? I mean the whole stuff: the open, the transition element, the lowerthird, loopable bg, etc. And we need more AE integration. Not simple camera export and adding some particles in AE. More info about different obejcts matte export, multi-pass export and working with multi-pass in AE… Something like that.

      • Harrison Ambs says:
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        Oh…my…..

        Dude, that’s at least a month’s worth of work. And you want me to screen cast that? Don’t you go outside? (lol) If I do something like that, it will be an epic multi-parter. And I’ll have to check with Kaleb to see if it’s cool for me to use Envato’s logo in one of these.

        I’ll keep that in mind, but I’d like to hear what everyone else thinks.

        • f1a5h84ck says:

          Maaan, I’ve done such package in four days… But I wont show you the result.. LOl.. :)
          Seriously, it’s a plenty of work, of course. And probably you don’t have to do such project. All we need is cool techniques, that makes our work easier and more interesting.
          May be we should try to find some videos, that looks great and probably you can explain how to do such things in C4D and AE?

        • John Doe says:

          Sounds like a good tutorial series

    4. gfxargentina says:

      thanks for the tutorials, I hope you continue doing many more.greeting from Argentina.
      Sorry about my English.

    5. luantran says:

      You can upload tutos create Motion Graphic in website: http://www.giantoctopus.com? broadcast projects very nice.
      Thanks

    6. illd says:

      Very informative and deep tutorial! But you talked to slow, I had to watch it in double speed ;)
      Seriosly, since I had problems to render out “clean” motionvector and normal passes, I would like to see how you render out this stuff and use it in AE.
      Also avoiding the halo effect from too much Dof you mentioned would be good to know. Since I am an AE geek and I knew all the stuff you explained in AE I would rather see some more 3D design tips form you than a “boring” expression I already knew – but thats probably just my opinion

    7. Constructive criticism says:

      Thanks for putting the time and effort into the tutorial. I wish you would structure you lessons in a more rigid manner. I felt confused at points because you would sometimes go off on a tangent when all that was required was 3 words, or I never got an overall sense of what we were working towards. I just watched and finally understood that you wanted to create a broadcast piece.

      Is there a better way to break down your lessons?

      • Harrison Ambs says:
        Author

        Yeah sure, I could outline what it is I’m going to show you how to make, in addition to the techniques involved. That’s a really good tip, your parents named you well.

    8. Harry says:

      Thanks for this tutorial I learnt allot, I would love to see you go over the materials and show us how to make some cool ones along with what everything does.

      Keep it up

    9. MushTools says:

      This is a very useful tutorial, thanks!

      http://www.mushtools.com | resources for designers

    10. Lawrence says:

      That was brilliant.
      Thanks

    11. Klas Andersson says:

      Thanks for the in-depth tutorial.
      I learned a whole lot!!

      //Klas

    12. Mark Lee says:

      I’m new to Cinema 4D and i’ve been scouring the internet for a tutorial of this quality. There’s a lot out there but the way you explained the workflow between C4D and AE was very helpful and has already taken my motion design to a higher standard. Look forward to the next tutorial.

    13. michael says:

      hey man very cool technick

      I break my head by trying to export from C4D to after effects

      but it will take as a 2D. saw wath verzion of Cinema 4D are you using?

      thanks alot it help me alot

      Cheers.

    14. Shannon Wilkerson says:

      Great tutorial Harrison. I can not wait to see some more of your advanced tutorials for Cinema 4D.

    15. Philip says:

      great tut
      maybe in another tutorial you do about ..How export/render a transparet or glass material to AE…..like in your project for Q13FOXNEWS …example http://i35.tinypic.com/fd4iro.jpg

    16. Andy in Amsterdam says:

      Thanks for the best tutorial I have seen on the net. I learned shed loads. What I would love to know is how you achieve the glorious light shininess to all your excellent work. If you are planning more tutorials I think this would be a great topic. Thanks again. Andy

    17. kolt says:

      awesome tuts man!! and thanks for the possible downloading!!

    18. Z says:

      Hi! Thank you for the tutorials! Though I haven’t tried out myself, simply by looking at them is exciting enough! I did a project using MAYA to model, animate and rendered out and then do compositing and some effects in AE which was so hard. Now I can play with Cinema 4D and AE which would much easier! This also helps with my thesis project too.

      • Harrison says:
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        As far as I’m aware, you can do compositing like I demonstrated in Maya. It’s been a long time since I used that program (version 6, I’m ancient); but it’ll always hold a soft spot for me since I cut my teeth in 3D on that program.

        It should have a way of exporting a file for importing into AE. I’d be extremely surprised if it didn’t, considering how much it’s used in the Movie and Television industries for 3D work.

    19. nervian says:

      this is one of hell great tutorial buddy
      i get a lot of new things after watch your in-depth tutorial
      cant wait to see another incoming tutorials from you

      -nervian-

    20. Jason says:

      Wow! Great tutorial! Very informative. I had to go back to re-watch the section on turning on DoF in CD4 though. That flew by a little to fast.

      And using separate null to isolate Rotation and Move is brilliant. That’ll make my life a lot easier.

      Thanks!

    21. gusigi says:

      thanks! good tutorial !

    22. michael says:

      hey thanks for the tutorial it help me allot saw can you export an animation
      to after effects from C4D? saw in cinema 4d how do you group the layers?
      saw they all move together as an animation? that is wath Im trying to do
      but thanks keep up the good work
      cheers.

    23. XtreMedia Bigz says:

      Great tuts man…. been searching for a while for an explanation like this… finally keep up the good work.. and keep them coming along that line… i’m sure there’s tons more to learn

    24. Boreale says:

      GREEAAAT TUTORIAL !! :-) Thanks a lot for this very informative and accurate work you did ! :-)

      I have 2 questions, hope you’ll have the opportunity to give them an answer :

      1/ About the Lens Blur fx in AE :
      In Video 2 , you point at the ugly outlines this effect may provoke around the text, when the intensity of the blur is increased. You say you could come back to this problem in another tutorial.
      I’d be VEEERRRY interested by the ways you can avoid these ugly outlines ! :-)
      I’ve observed that changing the blur intensity from 15% (by default) to 20% is enough to create these bad outlines… It seems we don’t have so much choice to increase the blur !! :-/

      2/ About the window Interpret Alpha, in AE :
      I observed you choose the 2nd option (“Straight Alpha”) to import your sequences in AE (except for the circle Matte).
      In a former work I did, I had to import such a simple text from C4D to AE, but I couldn’t get rid of black outlines around the letters, whether I choose one or another option in the “Interpret Alpha” window (Straight alpha, white color, black color etc…) :-(
      Have your already encountered such a problem ? Would it come from a strong setting in C4D ??

      Thank you a lot for everything ! :-)

      • Harrison says:
        Author

        Hey, 2 e’s and 3 a’s; sweet deal!

        1: I will be getting into that, but it’s more of an AE thing than a C4D thing, so it probably won’t be on CGTuts+, most likely AETuts, or maybe in a future project where I use DOF. I’ll try to make sure to reference it in a future tut. It’s not really something you can ‘fix’ just alleviate. It’s complicated.

        2: Ah, Premult vs. Straight. Yeah, I’ll do a ‘shorty tut’ on that in the future. I’m currently working on an epic 3-parter, I’ll put that down on the docket next.

        Incidentally you look a frighteningly amount like a friend of mine from high school. I know it’s not you; but it’s funny none-the-less.

    25. XtreMedia Bigz says:

      Great work….. been searching for such indept tutorial… got a lot of answers .. guess your style is my style… looking forward for new tutorials

    26. Highlander says:

      Thanks a lot for this Tut m8.

      I’m originally an AE user and I have been looking into expanding my knowledge by looking into 3D applications because obviously the 3D options in AE are very limited.
      I’ve only been doing this for like 2 days now so, in advance, if I’m asking for the obvious I’m sorry :)

      After watching these tutorials combined with some VideoCopilot stuff and some random video stuff I made this little videoclip:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3BmmJhNFhI

      Now I ran into 2 problems.

      The first is the matter that I can’t figure out how to get the audio that is in the movieclip inside the video to export. The way I set it up is by creating a material with the video as the texture. And then rendering the whole thing to a quicktime movie instead of seperate images. I’ve also tried putting a mic in the scene to see if that would help but again no luck. I’ve been searching around the web for a bit but I couldn’t find an answer anywhere so I’m starting to worry that it isn’t possible?
      Obviously you can put the sound in AE but if you make a scene like this with a lot of movieclips things could get rather complicated.

      The second thing I noticed when I exported the 3d camera data was that the data didn’t include the keyframes for the light intensity. This is probably the case for other parameters as well so I’m wondering if there is a way to add these in as well. A tag of some sorts?

      Any help would be highly appreciated.
      Greetings from The Netherlands

    27. ar2 says:

      Thanks!!! Great tutorial! fantastic

      BUT.. I HATE player on CGtuts…

      maybe guys from envato can borrow solution from vidocoopilot? ;)

      i like when:
      1 mouse click – pause
      1 mouse click – play

      & big screen all the time

      Greetings from Poland

    28. defrank says:

      amazing tutorial! really-really helpful, made my very first 3d project cause of it!

    29. Frank says:

      Thanks, you’re a good, talented teacher – please do not stop.

    30. billy says:

      for some reason…i cant get the render setting that you implicated on here to work with my after effects folder
      i get a error message when i load what i did in cinema 4d text, object, cam data..into my after effects
      i did everything you said but still doesnt work..do i have to install a plugin that enable after effects to see cinema 4d data…because my .aec comes up greyed out and i cant select it..thanks for the help im new to cinema 4d but made some excellent 3d with it..so any help would be usefull

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